Cobalt Suspsension

[Your new god]

koni's are horrible for street/track use.

 

[Aikidoshadow]

koni's are horrible for street/track use.

they are an upgrade from OEM even if you have done a TC FE5 swap.
B&Gs seem to be the best option I have seen currently for height and dampening ease with performance.

 

[Your new god]

they are an upgrade from OEM even if you have done a TC FE5 swap.
B&Gs seem to be the best option I have seen currently for height and dampening ease with performance.

they are actually a downgrade from stock. they have zero rebound control. this is very important in suspension.

i'll be more than happy to road race a street delta chassis with coil overs vs a well thought out shock/strut combination.

 

[Cobalt Tom]

not since this thread was posted haha

 

[Aikidoshadow]

they are actually a downgrade from stock. they have zero rebound control. this is very important in suspension.

i'll be more than happy to road race a street delta chassis with coil overs vs a well thought out shock/strut combination.

You have no control over the OEM dampening or rebound, you have no control over anything, its a set rate and height. So that doesn't make any sense. Now if you said actual performance in rebound and dampening then I would have to ask for proof since everyone else I have read and seen has been pleased with them (minus the PITA dampening adjustment) up until you really?

And considering that your only choices are OEM FE3 or FE5 (SC) FE5(TC), KYB, Koni, (dampeners) KW Variant, the CA Coilovers, JBPs coilovers, or B&G coilovers we really don't have much room to bitch or complain.

 

[AAS G5]

koni's are horrible for street/track use.

I love my Konis ride is better than stock shocks.

Koni Yellow Shocks

KONIs are not the average shock absorber, they feature a number of standards that make them unique:

KONI Sport dampers are externally adjustable by means of a knob, so they need not be disassembled from the car. The fine-tuning of the damping forces to personal driving style and to different driving conditions takes a matter of seconds. The best of fine-tuning technology straight from the world of Formula 1 racing. KONI Sport Dampers serves sporting drivers with a carefully designed range adjustment ranges and ride comfort. This line focuses on exceptional road-holding and handling properties, combined with an acceptable level of comfort.
KONI Sports improve the ride and handling of your car. The damping characteristics are developed for each particular application. Koni's specialists keep on testing and modifying until they are convinced they reached the optimum in both handling and comfort.

Along with a lifetime manufacturer warranty, these shocks are some of the best deals around.
Sport ''Yellow'' Shocks come with adjustment knob for easy adjustment on the fly.

 

[Your new god]

Do you both know anything about this subject? do you have access to a shock dyno to see what they do? no?

hmm. i guess your calibrated dyno is the best thing on the market. i look at it like this. street coil overs are a joke. too much spring, not enough damper. or vice versa. 99% of the average users end up lowering the car too low to be even remotely usable. then they lack the driving skill to even come close to being able use any suspension what so ever. 75% of the average users end up with stock bound and rebound settings found on most performance factory cars. i have seen it day in and day out.

AAS. nice copy and paste I really appreciate your opinion.

 

[Aikidoshadow]

Do you both know anything about this subject? do you have access to a shock dyno to see what they do? no?

hmm. i guess your calibrated dyno is the best thing on the market. i look at it like this. street coil overs are a joke. too much spring, not enough damper. or vice versa. 99% of the average users end up lowering the car too low to be even remotely usable. then they lack the driving skill to even come close to being able use any suspension what so ever. 75% of the average users end up with stock bound and rebound settings found on most performance factory cars. i have seen it day in and day out.

AAS. nice copy and paste I really appreciate your opinion.

Do you even have a delta chassis car? You don't have anything listed? What do you have? If you don't have ANY of the options that I mentioned, then you're driving a low end delta with NO suspension mods and then you really have no ground to stand on. Its difficult to form a discussion when all the opposing opinion has to offer is pure opinion. Give something to back this up, if you have been on the internet long enough you should have already known this was coming and should have some proof of your own. Otherwise you are making more of a claim than anyone else. I can appreciate being proven wrong believe me, but you have no proof. I have had a car on the FE3 setup and two the FE2 setup, the difference between drops on the B&G springs and the Eibach springs amongst the two setups that I have ran are very different with some similarities. Anyone can give an opinion come on.

 

[Your new god]

Do you even have a delta chassis car? You don't have anything listed? What do you have? If you don't have ANY of the options that I mentioned, then you're driving a low end delta with NO suspension mods and then you really have no ground to stand on. Its difficult to form a discussion when all the opposing opinion has to offer is pure opinion. Give something to back this up, if you have been on the internet long enough you should have already known this was coming and should have some proof of your own. Otherwise you are making more of a claim than anyone else. I can appreciate being proven wrong believe me, but you have no proof. I have had a car on the FE3 setup and two the FE2 setup, the difference between drops on the B&G springs and the Eibach springs amongst the two setups that I have ran are very different with some similarities. Anyone can give an opinion come on.

you are awefully quick to jump to conclusions junior.

 

[Cobalt Tom]

simmer down folks a friendly disagreement on setups or the ways it works is fine...but keep it from an all out brawl ya?