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First off I have alot of the parts already. to get the thing running, im planning on basicc stage 2 setup, smoothflow 3.0 pulley w/stg 2 hub and 42 lb/hr injectors. Cooling mods include cobra HE w/ LSJ HE, Devils own meth (i know i dont need it now, but i plan to drop to 2.8) im peiceing my own option b together, im getting a resevoir from a Saturn L200 as the hose ports are facing the correct direction as it will be mounted on the left of the engine bay. Dual pass endplate. I bought a trans cooler but its tiny, so i think im going to sell it and get a bigger one.
Car Stats-Current
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt 2.2L L61-NON-SAI
Black Sedan
Suspension and Brakeing
Dropzone Lowering Springs
TTR Rear Sway Bar
SS/TC Front Sway Bar
FE5 Struts/Shocks-need to ordernote: paid for, received bought to install rear FE5 shocks
16in Konig Traction Rims Wrapped in Yokohama rubber
rotors(slotted only), SS brake lines, and wilwood dot4 brake fluid
Used Parts-Bold Parts I Have
Cobra Heat Exchanger (Used from a 03 Mustang Cobra)
Cobra Heat Exchanger Brackets (custom or bwoodyperformance.com)
Eaton M62 Supercharger- 300.00 shipped, 32,000 miles
GM Stage 2 Injectors (42lbs)- 30.00 shipped, 5,000 miles(42lb/hr)
Stock LSJ Tensioner
Stock LSJ Downpipe
Stock LSJ Idler Pulley- used 15 shipped
Stock LSJ Throttle Body
Stock LSJ Serpentine Belt-20 shipped, used
Stock LSJ Intake Manifold- 250 shipped, used
Stock LSJ Exhaust Manifold 20.00 shipped, used ~ 15,000miles
Stock LSJ Alternator Bracket
Stock LSJ Supercharger Pulley-
Stock LSJ Heat Exchanger
Stock LSJ Intercooler Pump
GM Parts- Bold Parts I Have
11900248 – LSJ TB To SC Bolts (4)
12575463 – LSJ TB Gasket
12584342 – LSJ Supercharger Gasket
12594387 – LSJ IC Pump Insulator
12597855 – LSJ Intake Manifold Gasket
12597993 – LSJ Stage 2 Serpentine Belt
12614973 – LSJ 1 Bar Map Sensor
15247280 – LSJ Upper Radiator Hose-cobalt addiction chrome URH
9230949 – LSJ Exhaust Manifold Gasket
11516342 – LSJ Intake Manifold Mount To Block Bolts (2)???
11589214 – LSJ Supercharger to Intake Manifold Bolts (4)
12345982 – Genuine GM Supercharger Oil (Qty 2) 4 oz ea)-not using
12584369 – LSJ TB To Purge Solenoid Tube
12585150 – LSJ IC Pump Rear Bracket To Intake Manifold Mount???
12586367 – LSJ IC Pump Front Bracket To Rear Bracket
12586632 – LSJ Lower Intake Manifold Mount
15226536 – LAP | L61 | L65 Coolant Reservoir
15075118 – LAP | L61 | L65 Coolant Reservoir Cap
15231157 – LSJ Downpipe To Cat Back Gasket-using stock l61
15235773 – LSJ Exhaust Manifold To Downpipe Gasket-using stock l61
15253932 – LSJ Power Brake Booster Vacuum Hose
22729469 – LSJ Windshield Washer Container
22732432 – LSJ Wiper Cowl To Washer Container Hose
88986255 – LSJ 8 Pin TB Connector (LAP | L61 Only 6)
89046833 – IC Pump Connector
90537953 – LSJ Exhaust Manifold Heat Shield
15411879 – 2005 Cavalier Injector Wiring Harness. No cutting needed using GM Stage 2 Injectors-not needed
New Parts- Bold Parts I Have
ZZP Double Gauge Pod(I Have A Sedan)
OTTP SS SC Pulley Bolts(I Have Two Sets)
Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge-
GlowShift Vacuum | Boost Gauge-eBay,$37.00,brand new
AEM Wideband Air | Fuel Ratio Gauge
OTTP 3.0 Polished Pulley (For Stage 2 Hub)
NGK Copper Spark Plugs (Part# LFR6A-11)
AEM Intake-eBay, 70.00, brand new(will tap for meth)
Devils Own Base Meth Kit
Possible Parts in Future
GM Racing Ported head from gm P/N:88958619
GM Racing Dual Valve Springs with Ti Retainers, Spring Seats & Valve Stem Seals
GM Racing Stainless Steel Intake & Inconel Exhaust Valve Set .5mm Oversize
Comp Cams Ecotec N/A Stage III Cams
GM Racing Adjustable Cam Gear Set (DO i really need these? Can't timing be adjusted via the ECU?)
Cometic 2.2L L61 Ecotec 87mm Head Gasket .040
Eagle Forged H-Beam Connecting Rods(Do i need these I would prefer lightweight i beams)
GM Racing Neutral Balance Shaft Set (Or just Delete?)
Wiseco Forged Pistons 10:1CR .020 Overbore Where can I find 11:1? I want to still be able to run 93 Octane and With my e-Mange i could switch between two tunes the other would be self made E-100
see:http://www.boltdepot.com/Fastener-Information/Printable-Tools/
Head Stud Kit
Standard Bolts Needed (Not GM)
LSJ 1 Bar MAP To Intake Manifold
M6 x 1.0 x 25 (Qty 1)
LSJ Intake Manifold Mount Bracket To Intake Manifold
M10 X 1.50 x 50 (Qty 1)
LSJ Rear IC Pump Bracket To Intake Manifold Mount
M8 X 1.25 X 25 – (Qty 2)
LSJ Front IC Pump Bracket To Rear IC Pump Bracket
M8 X 1.25 X 35 – (Qty 2)
LSJ Idler Pulley To Block
M10 X 1.50 x 75 (Qty 1)
LSJ Idler Pulley To Alternator Bracket
M8 x 1.25 x 25
LSJ Intake Manifold To Block
M6 x 1.0 X 75 (Qty 2)
LSJ Alternator Bracket To Block
M8 X 1.25 X 130 (Qty 3)
LSJ SC Bypass Valve To SC
M8 X 1.25 X 20 (Qty 2)
LSJ Tensioner Lower To Alternator Bracket
M8 x 1.25 x 35
LSJ Tensioner Upper To Alternator Bracket
M8 X 1.25 x 40… not standard bolt though. Has to be metric hex socket bolt.
LSJ SC Reservoir Bracket To SC
M6 x 1.0 x 15 (Qty 2)
LSJ SC Reservoir To SC Reservoir Bracket
M6 x 1.0 x 15 (Qty 2)
Questions
(1.) Spark Plugs- i want one step colder, what heat range is good for a 3.0 pullied 2.2?
(2.) Please look over my list see and make any recommendations.:guns:
(3.) Looking at swapping heads, LSJ head on my L61-researching compatibility
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L13cTv0tI
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=215468&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27680&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=217656&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=206161&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
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Wilwood's specially formulated
Hi-Temp 570 Racing Brake Fluid has a minimum 570 F dry boiling point to withstand the severe heat requirements of automotive racing. Hi-Temp 570's low viscosity allows easy bleeding of your brake system, eliminating aeration of the brake fluid caused by foaming due to excessive pumping of the pedal.
spark plug info
http://www.gmperformancedivision.com/content/pulse/54/ECOTEC_2.0L_LSJ_Chap_1&2.pdf
8 Pin
Pin A (Dark Green): TP Sensor 1 Signal
Pin B (Light Blue/Black): 5-Volt Ref 2
Pin C (Black): Low Reference
Pin D (Purple): TP Sensor 2 Signal
Pin E (Yellow): TAC Motor control 1
Pin F (Brown): TAC Motor control 2
Pin G (Gray): 5-Volt Ref 1
Pin H (Black/White): Low Reference
6-Pin
Pin A (Brown): TAC Motor control 2
Pin B (Yellow): TAC Motor control 1
Pin C (Tan): Low Reference
Pin D (Dark Green): TP Sensor 1 Signal
Pin E (Gray): 5-Volt Reference
Pin F (Purple): TP Sensor 2 Signal
8-Pin >>> 6 Pin
A > D (Dark Green)
B > E (Gray)
C > C (Tan)
D > F (Purple)
E > B (Yellow)
F > A (Brown)
G > E (Gray)
H > C (Tan)
B/G both go to Pin E (Gray)
C/H both go to Pin C (Tan)
I think those colors are still the same (this was for my L61)
2.2 SC Thread
2.2 FI Thread
Sedan Pic thread
Build Book Left out
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=70397&highlight=install+header]Header
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=92797&highlight=install+header]Header
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First off I have alot of the parts already. to get the thing running, im planning on basicc stage 2 setup, smoothflow 3.0 pulley w/stg 2 hub and 42 lb/hr injectors. Cooling mods include cobra HE w/ LSJ HE, Devils own meth (i know i dont need it now, but i plan to drop to 2.8) im peiceing my own option b together, im getting a resevoir from a Saturn L200 as the hose ports are facing the correct direction as it will be mounted on the left of the engine bay. Dual pass endplate. I bought a trans cooler but its tiny, so i think im going to sell it and get a bigger one.
Car Stats-Current
2006 Chevrolet Cobalt 2.2L L61-NON-SAI
Black Sedan
Suspension and Brakeing
Dropzone Lowering Springs
TTR Rear Sway Bar
SS/TC Front Sway Bar
FE5 Struts/Shocks-need to ordernote: paid for, received bought to install rear FE5 shocks
16in Konig Traction Rims Wrapped in Yokohama rubber
rotors(slotted only), SS brake lines, and wilwood dot4 brake fluid
Used Parts-Bold Parts I Have
Cobra Heat Exchanger (Used from a 03 Mustang Cobra)
Cobra Heat Exchanger Brackets (custom or bwoodyperformance.com)
Eaton M62 Supercharger- 300.00 shipped, 32,000 miles
GM Stage 2 Injectors (42lbs)- 30.00 shipped, 5,000 miles(42lb/hr)
Stock LSJ Tensioner
Stock LSJ Downpipe
Stock LSJ Idler Pulley- used 15 shipped
Stock LSJ Throttle Body
Stock LSJ Serpentine Belt-20 shipped, used
Stock LSJ Intake Manifold- 250 shipped, used
Stock LSJ Exhaust Manifold 20.00 shipped, used ~ 15,000miles
Stock LSJ Alternator Bracket
Stock LSJ Supercharger Pulley-
Stock LSJ Heat Exchanger
Stock LSJ Intercooler Pump
GM Parts- Bold Parts I Have
11900248 – LSJ TB To SC Bolts (4)
12575463 – LSJ TB Gasket
12584342 – LSJ Supercharger Gasket
12594387 – LSJ IC Pump Insulator
12597855 – LSJ Intake Manifold Gasket
12597993 – LSJ Stage 2 Serpentine Belt
12614973 – LSJ 1 Bar Map Sensor
15247280 – LSJ Upper Radiator Hose-cobalt addiction chrome URH
9230949 – LSJ Exhaust Manifold Gasket
11516342 – LSJ Intake Manifold Mount To Block Bolts (2)???
11589214 – LSJ Supercharger to Intake Manifold Bolts (4)
12345982 – Genuine GM Supercharger Oil (Qty 2) 4 oz ea)-not using
12584369 – LSJ TB To Purge Solenoid Tube
12585150 – LSJ IC Pump Rear Bracket To Intake Manifold Mount???
12586367 – LSJ IC Pump Front Bracket To Rear Bracket
12586632 – LSJ Lower Intake Manifold Mount
15226536 – LAP | L61 | L65 Coolant Reservoir
15075118 – LAP | L61 | L65 Coolant Reservoir Cap
15231157 – LSJ Downpipe To Cat Back Gasket-using stock l61
15235773 – LSJ Exhaust Manifold To Downpipe Gasket-using stock l61
15253932 – LSJ Power Brake Booster Vacuum Hose
22729469 – LSJ Windshield Washer Container
22732432 – LSJ Wiper Cowl To Washer Container Hose
88986255 – LSJ 8 Pin TB Connector (LAP | L61 Only 6)
89046833 – IC Pump Connector
90537953 – LSJ Exhaust Manifold Heat Shield
15411879 – 2005 Cavalier Injector Wiring Harness. No cutting needed using GM Stage 2 Injectors-not needed
New Parts- Bold Parts I Have
ZZP Double Gauge Pod(I Have A Sedan)
OTTP SS SC Pulley Bolts(I Have Two Sets)
Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge-
GlowShift Vacuum | Boost Gauge-eBay,$37.00,brand new
AEM Wideband Air | Fuel Ratio Gauge
OTTP 3.0 Polished Pulley (For Stage 2 Hub)
NGK Copper Spark Plugs (Part# LFR6A-11)
AEM Intake-eBay, 70.00, brand new(will tap for meth)
Devils Own Base Meth Kit
Possible Parts in Future
GM Racing Ported head from gm P/N:88958619
GM Racing Dual Valve Springs with Ti Retainers, Spring Seats & Valve Stem Seals
GM Racing Stainless Steel Intake & Inconel Exhaust Valve Set .5mm Oversize
Comp Cams Ecotec N/A Stage III Cams
GM Racing Adjustable Cam Gear Set (DO i really need these? Can't timing be adjusted via the ECU?)
Cometic 2.2L L61 Ecotec 87mm Head Gasket .040
Eagle Forged H-Beam Connecting Rods(Do i need these I would prefer lightweight i beams)
GM Racing Neutral Balance Shaft Set (Or just Delete?)
Wiseco Forged Pistons 10:1CR .020 Overbore Where can I find 11:1? I want to still be able to run 93 Octane and With my e-Mange i could switch between two tunes the other would be self made E-100
see:http://www.boltdepot.com/Fastener-Information/Printable-Tools/
Head Stud Kit
Standard Bolts Needed (Not GM)
LSJ 1 Bar MAP To Intake Manifold
M6 x 1.0 x 25 (Qty 1)
LSJ Intake Manifold Mount Bracket To Intake Manifold
M10 X 1.50 x 50 (Qty 1)
LSJ Rear IC Pump Bracket To Intake Manifold Mount
M8 X 1.25 X 25 – (Qty 2)
LSJ Front IC Pump Bracket To Rear IC Pump Bracket
M8 X 1.25 X 35 – (Qty 2)
LSJ Idler Pulley To Block
M10 X 1.50 x 75 (Qty 1)
LSJ Idler Pulley To Alternator Bracket
M8 x 1.25 x 25
LSJ Intake Manifold To Block
M6 x 1.0 X 75 (Qty 2)
LSJ Alternator Bracket To Block
M8 X 1.25 X 130 (Qty 3)
LSJ SC Bypass Valve To SC
M8 X 1.25 X 20 (Qty 2)
LSJ Tensioner Lower To Alternator Bracket
M8 x 1.25 x 35
LSJ Tensioner Upper To Alternator Bracket
M8 X 1.25 x 40… not standard bolt though. Has to be metric hex socket bolt.
LSJ SC Reservoir Bracket To SC
M6 x 1.0 x 15 (Qty 2)
LSJ SC Reservoir To SC Reservoir Bracket
M6 x 1.0 x 15 (Qty 2)
Questions
(1.) Spark Plugs- i want one step colder, what heat range is good for a 3.0 pullied 2.2?
(2.) Please look over my list see and make any recommendations.:guns:
(3.) Looking at swapping heads, LSJ head on my L61-researching compatibility
Depends on what you idea of high boost actually is. If your looking for an all out race motor running 20+psi of turbo boost go to you Local GM dealer tell them you want this book
Sport Compact Build Book GM P/N: 88958720
That lists the various Ecotech powered GM race car parts.
If your shooting lower than that I would recommend the LSJ because its got (I believe) more aftermarket support and is easier to modify. The LE5 has variable valve timing so its a little more complicated to get right but has just as much potential
simple answer yes
You need to check to see what the combustion chambers displacement is. If they are the same you will know the compression ratio is 9.5 to 1 bigger = lower / smaller = higher
If your l61 is an 07+ you need to make sheer the lsj block has a 58x reluctor wheel
transmission bolt pattern is the same but check your clearance on the lsj oil cooler
i do not know if the crank has the same bolt pattern but if they are different you can just use aftermarket lsj flyweel and clutch if you are auto hope they are the same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L13cTv0tI
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=215468&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27680&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=217656&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=206161&highlight=LSJ+Head+L61
[/COLOR]
Wilwood's specially formulated
Hi-Temp 570 Racing Brake Fluid has a minimum 570 F dry boiling point to withstand the severe heat requirements of automotive racing. Hi-Temp 570's low viscosity allows easy bleeding of your brake system, eliminating aeration of the brake fluid caused by foaming due to excessive pumping of the pedal.
this might help you.
That is for NGK spark plugs
so according to this you may want to try
LTR8IX-11
spark plug info
http://www.gmperformancedivision.com/content/pulse/54/ECOTEC_2.0L_LSJ_Chap_1&2.pdf
8 Pin
Pin A (Dark Green): TP Sensor 1 Signal
Pin B (Light Blue/Black): 5-Volt Ref 2
Pin C (Black): Low Reference
Pin D (Purple): TP Sensor 2 Signal
Pin E (Yellow): TAC Motor control 1
Pin F (Brown): TAC Motor control 2
Pin G (Gray): 5-Volt Ref 1
Pin H (Black/White): Low Reference
6-Pin
Pin A (Brown): TAC Motor control 2
Pin B (Yellow): TAC Motor control 1
Pin C (Tan): Low Reference
Pin D (Dark Green): TP Sensor 1 Signal
Pin E (Gray): 5-Volt Reference
Pin F (Purple): TP Sensor 2 Signal
8-Pin >>> 6 Pin
A > D (Dark Green)
B > E (Gray)
C > C (Tan)
D > F (Purple)
E > B (Yellow)
F > A (Brown)
G > E (Gray)
H > C (Tan)
B/G both go to Pin E (Gray)
C/H both go to Pin C (Tan)
I think those colors are still the same (this was for my L61)
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